This “slot”, just after the first rush of news, usually around 0800, is (also usually) fairly easy to embed … for example, there’s a Chris Spargo “minutiae” item waiting, on bins.
Yesterday, I previewed this morning’s at Sat 13 but then came a rush of videos from that source and while I was thinking how wonderful that a girl landed a plane and how wonderful the ATC was in all this … yes, it was edge of the seat stuff, plus the girl herself found the YT channel and commented … while all that, along came a real Hultgreen story, which led to the coining of “Hultgreen Curie” as a descriptor of a certain kind of woman trying to do something she could not … we had the Blackhawk recently.
Worse, I have two YTs on females successfully landing planes and am only using one expanded, the kid, mainly because the audio is broken in the second … I’ll link to it though. But also rushing in were two YTs on the Hultgreen type incident … shall run one and link to the other again.
The essential difference between the first two and the Hultgreen type was this:
The most dangerous situation for anyone is being around a female “trying prove she’s every bit as good as a man in some trad man role”. Because her mind is set on either proving herself or showing off or otherwise losing concentration, even suddenly feeling fazed … and in a plane, it only takes a moment.
Curiously, often a kid or older woman will do it well, humbly, as in our first two YTs today … whereas a “look at me, I am Woman” type, maybe aged 18 to perhaps 48, wearing cool pilate-shades, dressed impeccably, can be a lethal liability to everyone within range. Her mind is on a range of topics, not on what she’s usually good at, e.g. managing a group, taking care of a checklist etc. etc.
Let’s get to maybe the most exciting one:
All right, that was Jennifer … now for some more:
I concur. As an ex teacher, the right attitude of the helper is crucial, it’s make or break with a girl. With a boy, it’s just a case of respecting him mostly. This was the other case where the lady landed fine.
And now to that dangerous type of female … the one who thinks she’s the ant’s pants. I also blame males … our own attitude towards her makes her suddenly anxious or even angry … and the rest is history.
And the other YT on it, back to the original presenter above.
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Is this picking on an unfortunate girl with comprehension and situational analysis issues? It might be, it might be bullying like a beast … except …
Hmmmmmm.
Against that, the commercial lady pilot who put the plane down in the Hudson River. Textbook landing. No caveats.
Within my own field, sailing … Laura Dekker, Jessica Watson … but not Abby Sunderland. The first two were “seat of the pants” sailors … knew their stuff, did not panic, support teams. Abby? Was trying to emulate her older bro’s feat around the world, boat a hotrod compared to the first two … Abby’s boat highly electronic. Beyond her. She survived, was rescued by a search and rescue.
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I copied some comments from the Hultgreen YT above, compressed etc., went back in here to add them to the Hultgreen part and guess what? Someone or something has removed everything between the two dotted lines above. It’s only because of a previous experience that I knew how to access the revisions and reverse the loss.
Here are those comments on Kara Hultgreen:
Now let’s get political. I was trying not to, I was happy to leave it as was but that cutting out of the damaging text annoys, hence me now doubling down! Christie, by the way, is a good one, highly competent within her skills set. Incidentally, I searched specifically for this video, it was found halfway down the scrolling page, with seven or eight bits of guff above it … you getting the drift here?
Nuff for now.
I take my hat off to Jennifer. A first solo landing in the Warrior she was familiar with is one thing. Doing it in a much faster Malibu (and without any flaps), is something else. But doing it while both your parents are suffering medical emergencies beside you at the same time??? I noticed she sounded a lot calmer after the controller got her to do some turns and instrument read backs – this obviously gave her much needed confidence for the difficult part ahead. How sad that neither her mum or dad survived.
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JH: Absolutely, Microdave. The ATC summed it up quickly … almost a team, the two of them.
She did remarkably well given the state her parents were in. Perhaps it centred her, gave her the focus she needed to land and get medical aid? I once took control of a Cessna 182 over Dunkeswell in Devon but the circumstances were completely different. For a start there was no emergency and the pilot simply handed control to me for about 10 minutes. This model normally has 4 seats but the rear was stripped out for sports parachuting. Talk about basic, the throttle looked like the choke knob in a car. Lovely day, clear blue skies I did some lazy turns and he even let me do the final approach. He took over about 400 hundred yards from the runway. It was a jolly I’d won in a bet the night before. Later that day I jumped out of it because I was there to do some parachuting – I managed two that day đ
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JH: Fascinating, Steve … at the controls, eh?
“The throttle looked like the choke knob in a car”
And there would have been a simple carburettor on the other end of that knob/cable. Also ignition by magnetos – long ago ditched with cars & bikes! But these ancient technologies have one advantage in aeroplanes – the engine keeps running even if there’s a total electrical failure. The Cessna also has the fuel tanks in its high mounted wings, so gravity feed will still work if needed. As for parachuting – I take the “Why jump out of a perfectly good aeroplane” school of thought…
I’ve had time to think about this and I suspect there were aspects left out of the video. There was no talk of the (pitch) trim setting, but with some flying experience I have to assume she was familiar with that. The flap setting only got a brief mention: the Warrior has simple lever (like a car handbrake) operated flaps, whereas the Malibu would be power operated. Since her father hadn’t retracted the undercarriage he probably hadn’t raised the flaps either. The latter two create significant drag – the wheels are normally retracted shortly after take off, and the flaps once sufficient speed has been reached. However, if this hadn’t been done, it may have saved them, as the plane was already fairly well configured for slow flight. The propeller would most likely also be in “fine” pitch (as used in take off & landing) so that’s another thing less to worry about in a stressful situation. Although she knew the runway was adequate for the Malibu – and it might well be with full flap – doing your first solo landing (in those circumstances) when travelling 10-20 knots faster is still a remarkable achievement.
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JH: Yes, went back over it all and even without flying knowledge, it was clear the girl knew what initial steps to take … the settings were a major factor … wheels, flaps … it was still a fine job done.