(0446) Morning all, light’s up, the sky was red but has now angrily “nimbused” over. Not too bad, health wise, just now … which leads to the question what happened yesterday? What laid me out when I’m functioning fine just now? That’s an ongoing deep dive and you have your own deep dives going on. Cunning plan is op ed in Fri 1, bringing in Reform/Restore, DAD in Fri 2, Steve in Fri 4 … then a curious docu-short following Fri 1 to 5. (0617)
5. Ethnat v Civnat
Frankly, I don’t understand the niceties of this new division which seems to be dominating discourse on the trad right, in the old BNP, TR etc. so I’ll look it up, knowing that ggl search will be highly biased from a left perspective. Maybe.

The immediate problem with both models is that they are held, by their gobby head honchos, to be mutually exclusive, zero sum … but are they? Are they zero sum?
Take Ben Habib, born in Karachi in 1965. So he fails the Civnat test unless naturalised but what of shared culture? This is tricky, as so many under the Raj were influenced by British society, cultural mores etc. Many are “more British than the British” in outlook. What of Chuckles … South African or English?
From The 39 Steps:
“Richard Hannay, the fictional spy and protagonist created by author John Buchan, was born in Edinburgh, Scotland around 1877. He spent his early childhood in Scotland before moving to South Africa at the age of six with his father. Later in life, he returned to Great Britain, famously settling in London and the Scottish Borders.”
Frankly, for a second time, I don’t have the answer … it’s shirley some sort of mix of the two. Perhaps.
4. Steve at 1395
- US and Iran Reportedly Reach Agreement on 60-Day Ceasefire Extension Pending Trump’s Approval
- Knife Attack at Swiss Train Station, Injuring 3, Sparks Fresh Security Fears Across Europe
- German Police Arrest Right-Wing Activist Traveling to “Remigration Summit” at Airport Gate, Issue Exit Ban
- The Ascension, Pentecost and the Midterms
- Russian Army Captures Key Heights Near Zaporizhzhia
- Sam Altman’s AI job apocalypse reversal looks like a calculated pivot as people fight for their livelihoods
- The Code to Exit the Matrix: How the WEF’s “Great Reset” is the final stage of the globalist depopulation agenda
- Much more.
3. Tesco v Aldi

Thing with Sandy is that the minutiae of life are her concern and I don’t disagree but Nige will make everything better and our nasty remarks here are only about Lowe’s and Ben’s old-man-bitterness over some peccadillo. Nothing will change her view, certainly not new revelations, plus she seems to be a Reform middle-level worker, paid or not.
2. DAD at 1395
a) Lyon: Surreal video of a man on a motorcycle transporting a sheep on the ring road, on the day of the Muslim festival of Eid al-Fitr… The prefecture has reported the incident to the police.
b) Vianne (47): An association discovers a clandestine sheep site for Eid. Several dozen dead animals, hidden and locked up in temperatures exceeding 34 degrees.
c) The next Fear-Porn? This is from the Mail. Chikungunya virus is heading for Europe: Scientists warn mosquito–borne tropical disease could spread to major cities thanks to climate change.
d) Secretary of State Marco Rubio said Wednesday…….the agreements allow the United States to deport certain illegal aliens to so-called “safe” third countries when returning them directly to their countries of origin is not possible.
1. Op ed of sorts
The brief of this site has been to bring as many perspectives as possible through our contributors, inc. me. The overriding issue is that we can lead a horse to water but if he turns away from the water, not a lot can be done. We did our part. Also, just because someone skips over, turns away, could still well mean he/she plans to tackle things later.
IYE has been pursuing the Donny thing, Steve and DAD are bringing their range of current events, t’other chaps now and then, my two pursuits right now are “filioque clause” (pronounce it “fil ee o kwee”), coming up as a doc short after this post and also in last night’s Constantinople post item … plus a quick look at Lord Toby’s place, on Blair/Milipede, below, quoting The Telegraph:
“The former Prime Minister accused the Energy Secretary on Wednesday of pushing a “quixotic fantasy” and said that China, the world’s largest greenhouse gas emitter, did not care about his beliefs. Sir Tony made the remarks a day after launching an unprecedented attack on Sir Keir Starmer, claiming in a 5,700-word essay that the Prime Minister had no plan to fix Britain. … The intervention has piled further pressure on Sir Keir, who is expected to face a leadership challenge in the coming weeks after leading Labour to a historic local election loss.”
Historic local election loss? All right, I was chatting to my landlord and discussing the Reform/Restore thing. Starmer has pushed this Renters’ Agreement on landlords, on pain of a £7000 fine … govt is squeezing out private landlords thereby, and our LL is convinced that the fab Nige is about to lose due to the hated Lowe, when Nige and Burnham had been neck and neck and the fab Nige had been fighting a lone hand for The People … then along came Lowe.
Utter bollox, as I told him … that 43% guff was from the commissioned Survation, establishment poll with handpicked sample, dutifully written up in The Times and elsewhere in the MSM. Reform’s own polling shows that Restore are their main problem, not Burnham. As a political normie whose reality is from the MSM, whereas he’d say mine is from socmed, he ignored what I said and asked me to “get Restore to back off”, as the n1 issue is to stop Burnham.
In other words, despite all we present here to the contrary, people are still locked into the MSM indoctrination.
Have a good Friday.
Is there any thing to stop Teflon Tony from being PM again, apart from common sense – which isn’t very common?
Could be he is to 2TK what Obummer was to Biden…..
5. “it’s shirley some sort of mix of the two”
That seems to be the civilised outlook, but where does the civilised outlook come from?
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JH: Er yes. Tell me.
You mention that Ben Habib in his early days was exposed to British values and mores. I can’t argue with that, many citizens born elsewhere in the world have embraced Britishness more than some of our own. One thing that I have observed over the decades is that the early settlers from the British West Indies desperately wanted to become British. They had the same exposure as Ben, more in fact as there wasn’t the religious conflict. Subsequent generations became accepted and assimilated, in short they were British. When settlers arrived from sub Sahara Africa their presence affected the younger generations of West Indians. The trajectory of the BWI cohort was switched from Britishness to “Africanness”. Maybe I simplify a far more complex problem but these have been my personal observations.
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JH: Ta Andy, good points.
5. Ethnat v Civnat – a contentious issue that takes no prisoners. Alex Phillips (TalkTV) spent a half hour on it this morning. Her position is clear and aligns with her own personal politics and that of Reform UK. Unfortunately the existential threat we face won’t be reversed by folk who hope they’ll all be like us when they arrive in this country – in the hundreds of thousands, every year. Civic nationalism is irrelevant when 40% of babies are born to migrant parents. A society that is constantly dividing is bereft of nationhood; evolves into something made by politicians; named by politicians, who control the conditions for our existence. Indeed the best they can hope for is a parting of the ways. They’re no good to us. None of them.