Feel free to skip over this post if rationalist, humanist, godless or otherwise uncomfortable. It’s intended specifically for those who’ve already got past the Christology obstacle (John 3:16) and that leads all denominations to the questions of the Crusades, the Schism, the Inquisitions, the play The Crucible, Bosch fanaticism and all the foibles of each denomination. Also to paedo priests, nuns, cults, non-biblical teachings or those cherry-picked, plus that meme yesterday when Mormon meets Jehovah’s Witnesses (yes, I do run for the backroom and stay very quiet).
“Ecumenical” refers to:
The odds of the Christian readers at this site being of different denominations, some main tenets quite disputed … the odds are high, let alone sniping by the godless themselves. It’s difficult for me as admin to steer some sort of ecumenical course, also in the light of these:
Gibson is Roman, Kassandra eastern Orthodox. In other words … Frankish crusaders v Byzantine. Let alone the Filioque clause. Then we get to protestant churches and/or cults, e.g. the Woke service DJT was forced to attend with that nutter female priest.
Looking at the Filioque clause itself, I start with there being a Father, which brings in the OT, there’s obviously a risen Son in this Christology … the Holy Spirit is the issue. To me, what’s it matter, in fine, disputed detail, if sent by the Father, the Father through the Son or the Son sent the HS … and to whom.
To laymen, one way to explain it is as our conscience. Another way, once we agree there’s a thing called possession, e.g. by the demonic … then why not, in the same way, for the HS also entering the human soul through opened portal? Causing an obvious clash.
My concern as one of the billions who accept the core beliefs, pretty much as laid out in the Apostles’ or Nicene creed … is how to get along without acrimony … agreeing to disagree on aspects like saints, mother Mary, rosaries, mass hysteria. To me, the priestly caste are not the church … it is the laity. In politics, the laity are also my chief concern, in each western nation.
And the reason I say we need to take immediate stock is that the faith is close to going back to the early Christian era … hiding in rooms, raided, murdered … all churches burned down or turned into m*squ*s … with us westerners all facing communism, masli, satanism bigtime.
As long as we’re divided by non-core doctrine, we have no hope but prayer … but what sort? Oh Lord, make these heathen protestants conform to Roman sun worship … the one true church? Excommunicate, burn the heretic? Or the Bishop of Rome is one of many patriarchs, say the Orthodox, a history of Borgias and Bergoglios. As for the protestants … the new Woke churches of “modern” twisted theology?
An example. The irreligious, yet educated, might note in the hymn below just how pure, torchsonglike, husky, plaintiff the girl’s voice is. The Catholic might say all fine. The Protestant might see it as quite Roman, ignoring the redemptive power of Jesus.
And while we’re on the topic of who misses out on a dedicated hymn … how about the Father? Does any Christian sing hymns about the Father Himself? Which is not diminishing the phenomenon of Jesus, otherwise, it ain’t Christian … but it’s saying there are THREE supposedly co-existing, co-eternal persons in this.
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And getting back to this political blog in general … I’m not going to badmouth the Brits, French, Americans, antipodaens, just because they have idiosyncratic ways … I’m not going to badmouth Germans or Scots … so what if we have different ways? We are allies up against a coming existential snuffing out.
Therefore I’m for any of these who share our core beliefs underpinning us as the west.
There was once a time when I would have fought for Queen and Country (UK, cos I am a patriotic Scot), but got diverted into working in a defence industry for Queen and Country. Working with industry and MoD engineers who genuinely wanted to produce the best for our services.
But now I would not fight for this King and this EU. And the defence industries are multinationals, much like in USA, producing expensive rubbish. COBRA radar, JP233 bomb, AJAX armoured vehicle, Phoenix drone, SA80 rifle, destroyers that overheat when operating in tropics, not one, but a pair of Aircraft Carriers that need an escort of Fleet Auxiliary Vessels to keep feeding them fuel oil – when they have not broken down.
(0900) Morning all … low Gates cloud bleah, poison for the weekend. (0904)
8. This was in The Echo
We all saw that photo, so WTH is this about:
7. Extorted for “charity”
6. IYE wrote, on the stewardess
“Not a rip, imo. Slow the GG vid down and zoom in. Silk scarf – hi vis is over it. So am I 🤣 Any groping and it wouldn’t be with the female attendant. 🤐”
I’ve looked again closely and the first lady at the door from the outside also had that patch or scarf end over her left shoulder. On the other hand, call it fanciful but if you pause and make clearer, the stewardess’s patch or whatever has the outline of a face, plus it looks a later cut and paste. Either way, the whole thing is off.
5. Personal request to readers
Newer regulars or semi-regulars to the tavern are obviously welcome, from either side of the pond or from downunder … the call to be clearer to Redacted was valid but why be belligerent about it? The whole point of this site is to deal with the hard stuff, often disagreeing … but civilly, ok? Let’s save the belligerence for the real foe.
(0719) Just woke up and tumbled out. Please see Fri 5. (0751)
4. Steve at 1060
Massachusetts Governor Throws a Fit After ICE Rounds up Illegals on Islands of Nantucket and Martha’s Vineyard
John Deere to Invest $20 Billion in America
Supreme Court Reins in Judges A little Bit in Latest Ruling
Rubio Announces US Will Now Ban Foreign Nationals Who Censor the Free Speech of Americans
Moscow Forces 2nd Istanbul Round, Makes Huge Demands To US
Over 1.5 million avoidable deaths occurred in USA after Covid-19 mostly disappeared – must be the deadly mRNA Jabs
The dark truth behind Ozempic and Wegovy
US To Deny Visas To Foreign Officials Who Try To Censor US Social Media Platforms
3. Julia has an interesting one at OoL
… coming up at 0900, not yet.
2. Justin, at 1060:9
… tells the tale of Stilton … a site worth visiting.
1. DAD at 1060
a) More and more European leaders are waking up to the impossibility of achieving badly thought-out green targets—not to mention the immense costs of achieving them.
b) The French are finding out that combining nuclear power with unstable wind and sun is not a good idea and is a risk to the power grid.
c) Former French Prime Minister Gabriel Attal’s proposal to ban the wearing of headscarves for girls under the age of 15 is causing a stir within the presidential camp.
d) Some 66 French prisons were raided this Tuesday morning. Investigators were primarily targeting owners of undetectable mini-phones.
